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   * Combo Hits (2+)   * Combo Hits (2+)
   * Special Moves   * Special Moves
 +  * Stunning Opponent
  
 === Base Points === === Base Points ===
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 > Note2: Jaguar's throw seems to make things weird with combos, for example: Throw, Jab, OHT. is a 3 hit combo. This should give: 4000+800+7200 points in base (12000), and same x4 in combo bonus (48000). Instead I get 3200 points, which is what I would get for the jab alone > Note2: Jaguar's throw seems to make things weird with combos, for example: Throw, Jab, OHT. is a 3 hit combo. This should give: 4000+800+7200 points in base (12000), and same x4 in combo bonus (48000). Instead I get 3200 points, which is what I would get for the jab alone
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 +=== Stunning Opponent ===
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 +Each time you stun an enemy you get free points. This includes when the arena stuns them. The points seems to be the difficulty number, so 4000 for Ultimate/Heavy Metal.
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 +> If the AI is especially bad, they can actually end up self stunning in the desert arena multiple times and feed you points. Cossette especially.
  
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 If you do a Scrap you gain half the difficulty, 200. And if you do a destruction you gain another half the difficulty, so another 200 for a total of 400. If you do a Scrap you gain half the difficulty, 200. And if you do a destruction you gain another half the difficulty, so another 200 for a total of 400.
  
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- +====== Exceptions: One Player Mode ======
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-===== Exceptions: One Player Mode =====+
  
 In 1-Player mode the points is the High-Score. So the goal is to rack up as much points as possible so you can impress your friends with huge numbers. In 1-Player mode the points is the High-Score. So the goal is to rack up as much points as possible so you can impress your friends with huge numbers.
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   * Fire & Ice hidden characters   * Fire & Ice hidden characters
  
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-====Best 2 out of 3====+===Best 2 out of 3===
  
 Since you get “Combat Score” for everything you do, it means you gain more points for winning 2 and losing 1, than you do for winning 2 and losing 0. The optimal play here is to beat the opponent down to 1% like, and then let him win. Then beat him perfectly two times in a row. The same applies for “Best 3 of 5” or higher numbers etc, lose as many rounds as you can while racking up points, then perfectly dominate them in the rest. Since you get “Combat Score” for everything you do, it means you gain more points for winning 2 and losing 1, than you do for winning 2 and losing 0. The optimal play here is to beat the opponent down to 1% like, and then let him win. Then beat him perfectly two times in a row. The same applies for “Best 3 of 5” or higher numbers etc, lose as many rounds as you can while racking up points, then perfectly dominate them in the rest.
  
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-====Fire & Ice====+===Fire & Ice===
  
 These hidden characters in 1player mode can only be accessed on the Fire Pit arena, by using a Scrap/Destruction + Fire&Ice move. So if you want to maximize score in 1player highscore, you want these two. Especially since they give crazy much points, to the degree that you won't get a decent high score without them. These hidden characters in 1player mode can only be accessed on the Fire Pit arena, by using a Scrap/Destruction + Fire&Ice move. So if you want to maximize score in 1player highscore, you want these two. Especially since they give crazy much points, to the degree that you won't get a decent high score without them.
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 If you perfect against every normal enemy except fire (and don't play ice), you will get less points than another player not perfecting against any of the normal enemies, but perfects Fire (and doesn't play ice). And Ice gives even more points. If you perfect against every normal enemy except fire (and don't play ice), you will get less points than another player not perfecting against any of the normal enemies, but perfects Fire (and doesn't play ice). And Ice gives even more points.
  
-BUG: If playing on 2of3 or higher, there is a way to fight Fire multiple times until you defeat him, this means you can get some insanely high highscores, and completely negates highscores in this mode.+> BUG: If playing on 2of3 or higher, there is a way to fight Fire multiple times until you defeat him, this means you can get some insanely high highscores, and completely negates highscores in this mode.
  
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   * Unranked Challenger   * Unranked Challenger
  
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-====Tournament Mode: Repairs====+===Tournament Mode: Repairs===
  
 In tournament mode you got to repair in-between matches, so unless you perfect the enemy, you're subtracted some score after each match. Primary a problem if you lose. In tournament mode you got to repair in-between matches, so unless you perfect the enemy, you're subtracted some score after each match. Primary a problem if you lose.
  
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-====Tournament Mode: Unranked Challenger====+===Tournament Mode: Unranked Challenger===
  
 These always have a much higher base value, thus you gain a lot more score from beating them, or even doing combos etc. These always have a much higher base value, thus you gain a lot more score from beating them, or even doing combos etc.
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 ===== Maximising Points ===== ===== Maximising Points =====
  
-So the optimal way to get higher score is to make a lot of low damage combo attacks, with many specials. Electra is probably the best at this, with a pilot like Crystal.+So the optimal way to get higher score is to make a lot of low damage combo attacks, with many specials. Electra is probably the best at this, with a pilot like Crystal. If you are going to maximize points, you must play a perfect game, and do scrap + destruction. 
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 +If playing best 2 out of 3 or more, then you'll want to beat the enemy to 1% health, and then lose, in order to get as many fights as possible, for more Combat Points. Winning 2-0 is actually less points than winning 2-1. 
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 +This can be abused further with Fire&Ice in 1player, as with an exploit you can repeatedly fight on the fire arena, fight Fire, lose 1-2, and do the same again 10 times and win on the last time 2-1, and then fight Ice. Before fighting Kreissack for absolutely crazy points. To the degree that any other points you gain for the normal matches doesn't even matter. 
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 +===== Tables ===== 
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 +Couple of tables with some stats for points and damage from two bots. 
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 +==== Points ==== 
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 +^ Points ^ Jaguar ^ Nova ^ 
 +| 6P | 800 | 800 | 
 +| 5P | 800 | 1600 | 
 +| 4P | 2400 | 2400 | 
 +| 3P | 800 | 800 | 
 +| 2P | 1600 | 1600 | 
 +| 1P | 2800 | 2000 | 
 +| JP | 2400 | 1800 | 
 +| 6K | 1600 | 1200 | 
 +| 5K | 1600 | 1600 | 
 +| 4K | 2800 | 2000 | 
 +| 3K | 800 | 800 | 
 +| 2K | 1600 | 1600 | 
 +| 1K | 2400 | 2800 | 
 +| JK | 2400 | 1800 | 
 +| Throw | 4000 | 4000 | 
 +| Special 1 | 4800 | 4000 | 
 +| Special 2 | 4000 | 4800 | 
 +| Special 3 | 7200 | 4000 | 
 +| Special 4 | - | 2400 | 
 +| Scrap * | 2800* | 0 | 
 +| Destruction * | 25600* | 0 | 
 +| Fire/Ice * | 0 | - | 
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 +==== Damage ==== 
  
 +^ Damage % ^ Jaguar ^ Nova ^
 +| 6P | 4 | 5 |
 +| 5P | 4 | 13.5 |
 +| 4P | 11 | 16.5 |
 +| 3P | 4 | 6 |
 +| 2P | 11 | 11 |
 +| 1P | 17.5 | 10x2 |
 +| JP | 12.5 | 12.5 |
 +| 6K | 11 | 7 |
 +| 5K | 11 | 9.5 |
 +| 4K | 17.5 | 10x2 |
 +| 3K | 5 | 6 |
 +| 2K | 11 | 12 |
 +| 1K | 17.5 | 17.5 |
 +| JK | 12.5 | 12.5 |
 +| Throw | 22.5 | 22.5 |
 +| Special 1 | 15 | 17.5 |
 +| Special 2 | 15 | 17.5 |
 +| Special 3 | 25 | 22.5 |
 +| Special 4 | - | 22.5 |
  
-If you are going to maximize points, you must play a perfect game, and do scrap + destruction. 
  
omf2097/point.1655070730.txt.gz · Last modified: 2022/06/12 15:52 by joneirik

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